they're not required required to have their programs tested before they're put in a live production environment we also need to have kill switches in case these cheetah programs go feral and finally we need to find these guys if they do something that's wrong if they violate the law by the second. i mean like by the day hundred forty grand by the day by the violation but these guys could make millions in seconds and so we should they have our policy and fine by the second also lauren ok i totally hear you let's go into a little bit more of how this works first backing up the five crash was the wake up call i totally hear you but even after the flash crash i know because of scott patterson who wrote the book dark pools he looked at this very closely and i interviewed him and he was out a credit suisse traders forum after the flash crash where all these algorithmic traders were worried they played the obama sound bite where he said i didn't go to washington to help wall street fat cats and they were born each other we have to rein it in or else regulators are going to come down on us and that it'